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Seamus Fox on Overcoming Obstacles and Inspiring Others

Seamus Fox Season 3 Episode 123

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In this episode I was guest on Colm O Brians Podcast. 

I really enjoyed our conversation. 
In our conversation, Seamus opens up about the profound impact of adversity on his life—how a single pivotal moment can spark a commitment to one's highest values and redefine personal and professional goals. Through bodybuilding and a successful stint as a personal trainer, Seamus discovered the importance of protecting time and energy to pursue what truly matters. His insights serve as a compelling reminder of how life's challenges can guide us towards our true path, often in the most unexpected ways.

We round off this engaging episode by discussing the importance of introspection and the environment's influence on growth. Seamus shares the value of focusing on core tasks that align with one's values and avoiding the common pitfalls of outsourcing our passions. As we anticipate meeting him in person soon, we encourage listeners to balance moments of solitude with meaningful social interactions, and to heed the wisdom of Dr. John Demartini about listening to one's inner voice. Join us for this inspiring exchange that promises to enrich your journey towards personal and professional fulfillment.

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Speaker 1:

I think I definitely touched on one that was kind of life-defining for me, one that was really really challenging. Again, we've kind of skirted on the outskirts of what that was like, but internally, what that was like at that time how I actually felt, I felt as low as a snake's belly. I didn't know what was going on. So there was a lot of really kind of dark moments for a long period of time after that event. Um, there's been many more challenges since.

Speaker 1:

As you know you, you can get your challenges in life, you get your challenges in business and it's how you perceive them and like well, the people that I work with and coach come. Some of them are going through really challenges in their, their business and what I automatically begin to do is right, well, let's look at the other side of that. How is that serving you right now? How is that benefiting you right now? How is that helping you grow right now? Where is that giving you resilience? How is that going to pay dividends in 6 months, 12 months, 18 months? So I think that for me, that was a major event. There's been other events since.

Speaker 2:

Hello there and welcome to another Coffee with Colin, and thanks indeed for joining me. Delighted to let you know that this morning I've got a guest a mine, seamus Fox, and Seamus and I met over the last number of years online, as always happens these days, and I'm just fascinated by the work he does and how he goes about his life. So, seamus, you're very welcome. Pop in, say hi, cheers us with your coffee mug.

Speaker 1:

Thank you very much, colin. Great to be here, looking forward to this morning's conversation.

Speaker 2:

Me too. Me too, no idea where it's going to lead. As you know, this season of Coffee with Colin is all about mental resilience and mental well-being. I sort of found myself in this space in this season and happy to go there. So thanks indeed for popping in. So come here, tell us who you are, what you do, where you're based. All that good stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my name is Seamus Fox. I'm a coach on mindset and human behavior. I'm based up here in the north, in Derry City. I've been here my whole life. I was actually living in Donegal for about six years and then moved back into the city again at the start of this year. So yeah, I've been involved in health and fitness and mindset and human behavior and personal training as a coach for the last 20 years. Colin, Fascinating.

Speaker 2:

I'm loving the accent, by the way. It's great, it really is great. You probably don't know that you have one, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I just sometimes struggle with people. Are they actually understanding me? Especially when speaking to people outside of the UK or outside of Ireland? A lot of people call me Seamoss.

Speaker 2:

Oh.

Speaker 1:

Seamoss. Oh yeah, that would make sense. Cmos, just imagine there's a H all right.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, cmos, it's great to have you on Coffee with Paul this morning. Thanks indeed for being here. So, um, the work you do, mindset, etc. Um, before we get into that right and tell us what you do there, um, will you do you mind taking us right all the way back? You said you're from Derry City all your life, so take us all the way back. What was school like for you? Were you a good student?

Speaker 1:

no, I wasn't a good student, call him. To be totally honest, school for me was kind of like I just didn't get it. I just didn't really understand it. I didn't really get inspired by it. Um, I just didn't find anything in school that I actually could cling to in terms of education that I wanted to actually do. And it wasn't until years later that I really began to understand a lot of those reasons.

Speaker 1:

But I left school at 15 or 16, couldn't wait to get out the door, didn't actually sit a qualification, just wanted to get out. Actually, at 15 or 16, you think you know it all. You think you're just going to be great. That wasn't the way it was. It didn't turn out that way. For years Kind of struggled to find my own path and struggled to find who I was and what I was doing. But school was never really something that I could grasp. A lot of the reports said bright, could do really well all these different things but is easy to distract. It has really bright but doesn't apply himself and understanding kind of the brain and human behavior. Years later I really started to understand why those things were, because if you're not doing something that you really find inspiring and did you really find high in your values? You're going to distract yourself, so for me, that's what school was. I just, I just didn't find something inspiring wow, well, thanks for the honesty.

Speaker 2:

Uh, my dad came to mind, obviously generations apart from you, but he said the same. He ran out of school, couldn't wait to get out, and you know it's a reality for many people, I think. So what happened then? I mean, you know I presumably didn't go straight from running out of school into college or university, so what did you do next?

Speaker 1:

To be honest, colm, I ended up out in the sights with my brother as a library roofer. I was roofing for a while. I was a laborer there I was. I'll give you a list of jobs and careers I was a bouncer, I was a doorman, I was a carpet fitter, I was a window fitter no-transcript back on it and I've done that with hindsight was I had a belief that I wasn't educated so I couldn't get a good job.

Speaker 1:

I had a belief that I wasn't educated so I couldn't do certain things. And it took an event for that to actually shift and change and it got me realigned again with what I actually have always really valued. From a young age of seven I've been involved in sports and health and fitness playing football, boxing, and I've always been involved in that. But then, probably around the age of 17 18, I kind of lost my way at the party scene. Um, just got into a bit of a rut, running around in the wrong crowds doing the wrong things and kind of just not really knowing who I was or where I was going. And then things began to shift and change for me through an event which I'm happy to share and go through.

Speaker 2:

We'll talk about that for sure, seamus. Loving the honesty, loving the honesty. You know the whole idea here. I find myself led into this conversations about mental well-being in this season of Coffee with Colin. I'm really happy to go there. But it's really interesting when people are open and vulnerable, because people meet you in the street, right, and I think, geez, look around, seamus Fox, or Seamus Fox, right, he's got his act together, right, but they don't know the backstory. By us sharing our vulnerabilities and our backstory, other people out there will say hang on a second, see what Seamus went through. I'm going through that, or I've been through that and he's okay. Therefore, I'll be okay. So that's the whole idea. Happy days, idea, happy days.

Speaker 2:

And again my dad came to mind. Uh, he said for years he went back by the way down here it's do your leave insert is at the a levels in yeah, okay, uh, so he didn't. He never said his leave insert, right, um, and he always felt exactly what you said there. He always felt uneducated in company, right, uh, didn't know how to hold himself. And he went back and did the leave insert at age 37, and hats off to him, but that was a deep need in him just to say you know, I'm okay.

Speaker 1:

Of course he was okay anyway, as were you, yeah, and you said you the belief system that was um, yeah, right, because those things, um column, that we think we're missing were the very things that we needed, because I had created a void and emptiness in myself that I wasn't educated. And when I found something that I really loved, I've been educating myself every single day, hiring coaches and hiring mentors and going to seminars all over the world and learning from some of the best in the world in human behavior. So that void that was created within me that I wasn't educated enough spanned an almost 20-year career of constantly educating myself and mindset, human behavior and health and well-being. So sometimes we think the thing was missing, but it was the very thing we needed in order for us to get to where we want to be.

Speaker 2:

And in order for us to be of service to the universe in the way the universe wants us to be. And Seamus Fox has an assignment, as does Colin O'Brien, and I'd like to. Both of us are stepping into it. Come here. You mentioned an event. You've used the word a few times. Do you want to talk to us about it?

Speaker 1:

yeah, um, I've shared this multiple times, colm, in a podcast. I wrote a book about it, so I've, um, I have no qualms about sharing it at all. So I kind of touched on those years, colm, where I was young, impressionable, 21, 22, um, not really knowing where I was going, just as I said, living on social benefits and then trying to get a bit of work here and there to make my way. I suppose I was living out my own um, and I just got caught up in the party scene and it was a Saturday morning, um, it was 10.30am and I'd smashed my car head onto a wall, out of my mind, partying after a few days. No recollection of getting into the car, colin, don't really remember it at all. I remember getting out of the car and a guy who was there was an angry onlooker. He'd smashed me in the face, busted me open. Remember my head hitting off the concrete and kind of coming around to myself and going like what's going on here? Where am I? And the police came and arrested me. Thankfully, as I look back with a bit of wisdom and hindsight, the police came and arrested me, threw me into a cell. I was out of my mind. They didn't even try and breathalyze me or take my blood. They took me back out of the cell later, took my bloods and then they released me that night.

Speaker 1:

Next morning I woke up in my flat covered in blood, asking questions, going what happened, and I'd love to say that was a pivotal turning moment. Like everything changed straight away, but it was a moment that I started to go right, okay, like what am I doing here? Like I could have killed somebody. That was the thing that was going through my head constantly, and the guilt and just low, shitty feeling that I felt for months after that column was something that created a change within me. It really started to get me to look at myself, look at my behaviors, look at what I'm doing. And it's funny because sometimes we can look at those events and think I was sabotaging myself. But if I look at that event, it was self-serving because it got me really aligned again to go back to the thing that I've always loved, which was my highest value, which was health and fitness. So after that I said, right, I'm not going out anymore, I'm not drinking, I'm getting away from that scene.

Speaker 1:

And I got back into the gym and I started bodybuilding in a local gym here and there was a guy in there who's a national bodybuilder he was British champion and stuff like Dave Fox and I had an idea that I wanted to compete and he gave me a bit of belief. He said if you really put your head down, you'd be in really great shape. And at that time I think it was something I really needed. I just needed somebody else's belief and a year later I was standing on stage in belfast and I claimed first place one of the the nab of mr northern ireland me and my briefs tanned up, and that gave me.

Speaker 1:

That gave me a. It gave me an incredible amount of confidence for one column, but it gave me a platform to actually start a career as a personal trainer, and that career as a personal trainer started off the back of that. So that event like almost killing myself or maybe killing somebody else and a car crash which was horrible, horrible at that time sparked something within me that created a massive change over the last 20 years to do what I really love, which is coaching other people and getting them to be the best version themselves wow, boule bus, that's fantastic, fantastic.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for sharing that. Um, several things came to mind as you're relating that story. Uh, you know, you said it could have been a disaster, uh, and, but in fact it was self-serving. Now it's, at face value, it seemed like a disaster, right, absolutely and. But you know, I think you and I share a common belief around the universe, and the universe has ways of nudging us into, into the direction, the lane we're supposed to be in, or slapping us in the head saying, yeah, wake up here, yeah so, or smashing the face and making your head bunch of concrete.

Speaker 1:

That was a guy that came along and held me accountable there you go, there, you go he held me accountable and he made me wake up and at that age, when I was young and stupid and like 21, 22, without the sense that, um, I have at 43, it was what, what I needed.

Speaker 2:

Come here. Did you ever see the movie the Adjustment Bureau? I haven't, no, Check it out. The Adjustment Bureau, Great, great movie. Matt Damon and Emily Lynch, I think. But anyway, essentially the Adjustment Bureau is angels. Right, it's a fascinating, fascinating story. But your man, I smashed you in the face. He was one of those angels he was sent to you right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 100%, 100%. And at the time it was probably about a year after that column I was really just starting to get things back into control again and I remember just having this you talk about mental health and mindset and like improving yourself. At that time I just didn't think about anything else. Then, all the land, I just want to get to the gym, just want to get to the gym and train, train twice a day and it was just like tunnel vision eat, sleep, train and repeat that's all I did, didn't think about anything else, didn't have a job even at that time, it was just loving the brew. But I just wanted to train because I had a vision. I had something that I wanted to do and complete and it was to get on that stage and nothing else mattered. It was just right.

Speaker 1:

I need to focus on this and for me, if we look at human behavior and we look at highest values and I shared something like this on my Instagram this morning which was two of the most important things that you can protect is your time and your energy, and when you're doing something that's really, really high in your values or the greeks called the telos, your teleological, like um point of view, spirit, whatever it is that you're here to complete which gives you most meaning and purpose, your energy goes up. You get the energy all day long to do those things, but when you're doing things that are lower in your priorities and lower in your values, because you may be subordinate to the other people or other authorities, your energy goes down. So when I got really, really focused on what was my highest value at that time, I had all the energy in the world to do it and it was all focused on. Isn't it amazing?

Speaker 2:

Isn't it amazing you mentioned Big Dave Fox? He was another angel, he was the gentle angel. Yeah, yeah, that led you on the journey that you're on today. Tell me the work you do today in terms of working with, with people, is this gym work? I know you had a gym for a period and that that phase is is over. Is that right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I had a gym for 12 years and I just kind of exited that gym this year at the start of the year. So the work that I do now, colm, is I work with a lot of CEOs, business owners, business leaders um, one-to-one primarily with those guys, but I also have a group coaching program as well too. Um, and what I work on Colm is all areas of mindset, and then I look at again the physical part as well too. So we're bringing that holistic view in to improve how you're thinking about certain things. Understanding what those values are, getting really aligned with those in your business, is so key, and especially, beginning to understand other people's values within your business, your employees, what makes them tick, and understanding that piece can be like a point of authenticity for you.

Speaker 1:

I've often heard from people that a coach is like a weight off their shoulders, where they really get, they understand themselves and know what's really important for them. And if you know that, you can begin to match your goals and your habits and the things around that, which means that you have more focus and more energy to be yourself instead of somebody else. So it's, it's a, it's a combination of the mindset work and in the health and the fitness, nutrition, sleep and all those things. They improve how a person's feeling mentally, physically, emotionally.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's very interesting to hear you talking about that. Uh, you're talking about coaching, ceos and the like, one on one. Um, I've come to believe over the years heard a phrase years ago, but I've come to believe it for sure that uh, your business can never outgrow you. Your business can never outgrow you. So you and I, or any business owner out there, has got to put in the hard yards themselves and grow personally, intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, physically right to be in the best shape that we can, and our business follows suit. It's never the other way around 100. Yeah, it's really interesting to hear Because I imagine you're going into businesses that you've got no knowledge of the business right, but you've got knowledge of human behavior. Yeah, that's the key.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because a friend actually asked me that, as a coach, if you're coaching guys at certain levels and they're doing certain numbers and they're doing certain things in their business that you haven't achieved in your business, I says I'm coaching the person, I'm not coaching the business, I'm coaching the person.

Speaker 1:

I says, and I understand human behavior and I work with a person and I work to get them to think better, feel better, improve their health and their wellbeing and their lifestyle, and if I can get them to improve all those things, how they show up in their business is completely different, which then their business is going to be a reflection of how they're thinking, how they're feeling and how they're performing. So you're right, calm 100. It's not about um, the external things that make the business grow, because if you've got a lot of unconscious motives that stop when you've been growing, you're not going to grow. So it's about uncovering those things and getting rid of those unconscious motives and collapsing those fears and and linking the the growth of the business, the higher values, so that you can find more meaning and more purpose and keep moving forward it's very interesting because and somewhat scary, uh that many of these habits or beliefs are unconscious, so we don't even know that.

Speaker 2:

We don't know about them. Right, and you know we need to bump into somebody, an angel, like you, like shane fox, right in our journeys. Right, we've all got to bump into people who nudge us and and we learn from, and we all learn from each other if we're open to it and we all learn from each other. Um, yeah, look it's. I think it's fascinating work and I applaud you for doing it. And I'm delighted because you and I met a couple of years ago and we were talking about your work in the gym and the gym that you owned and whatnot, and your dream was to exit. I'm delighted that you've achieved that dream and you're fully aligned with what you always wanted to do. Tell me I had a question. It's got in my head. It'll come back to you in a moment. Actually, tell me about the picture behind you. There's a lovely picture behind you. It looks like the yin and yang, but it's very different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, it's. It's kind of that encapsulated the yin and the yang which for me, if I look at it from from a coaching perspective, is bringing people's perceptions back on the balance. It's bringing people's perceptions back into neutrality because so many times people are so polarized in their perception and it causes so much emotional volatility. And I think a lot of the times as human beings, naturally, but especially in business, we've a lot of charges and we've expectations for people to be a certain way, things to be a certain way, life to be a certain way, and a lot of the times throughout our life column we begin to create those experiences, we store those experiences subconsciously and if we haven't balanced out our perceptions of those experiences, those experiences run us and we don't run them. So for me, it's a lot of the deeper work that I also do with people that I'm coaching is getting in the shift and find the balance and their perception so they can bring themselves back in the neutrality. They can bring themselves back and they be more objective and they can see things clearly.

Speaker 1:

Everything in life is a duality. Everything's both sides. You've got a positive and a negative, can't separate them, but most times in our expectations we want positive. We want the business to be pleasurable, we want the business to be positive, we want it to have it all the way that we want it. And we need to know that in order to have that, you have to embrace the opposite side, which is a challenge, which is the pains, in order to grow. And if you can embrace both sides and see it as on the way instead of on the way, then you begin to move forward.

Speaker 2:

Cool Step the way. Then you begin to move forward. Cool step out of the way, so, like we can see it, anybody who's watching the look at that. It's not just beautiful, it's a stunning, stunning, nice picture, isn't it beautiful? Yeah, I remember my my question, by the way, as well, which was uh, it was a point you said I wanted to make it to the people who are listening. Uh, we're, we're recording this, folks at it's now 7 19 am of a wednesday, right, um, wednesday right, because we're both busy, and we're busy doing work that we love, which is wonderful. But Seamus just threw in a comment. He says I was on Instagram earlier and I did blah blah, blah, right, and I was thinking you need to know that. So we're here at 7 o'clock. Seamus was already on Instagram doing blah blah, blah. Seamus, what time were you up at this morning?

Speaker 1:

I was up at five this morning, Went for a run and then hopped on the Instagram and shared a few insights and then come back and get washed, changed, had a coffee and ready to hop on with your good self and have a good conversation.

Speaker 2:

Nice one, nice one. But, folks, success leaves clues. Success leaves clues. And here's another corollary of that Failure also leaves clues. Right's another. The corollary of that. Failure also leaves clues, right? Just look at the clues around you, right? If life is working for you, great. If life is not working for you at this moment in time, look inside. Look inside first.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Happy days. Listen. Come here loving what you're doing. I love your office. That's very serene looking, looks like you can do great work there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's nice and calming and relaxing. It's a good space for talking and having good conversations with yourself and then just coaching. I think your environment is really, really important, definitely especially for work, your environment as a whole. There's a quote by James Clear. He said the environment is the invisible hand that shapes human behavior, and I think it's so, so important. So, so true. You know and I know the people that you surround yourself with, the information that you listen to, who you listen to, what you're listening to is going to impact how you think, how you feel and the decisions you make, the actions you take and the results that you get. So one of the big things that I started to do when I wanted to create change was how do you look at my environment? Who am I around? What am I listening to? So I'm the environment in your office, the environment that you're surrounding yourself with in terms of the people in your whatsapp, with people in your conversations.

Speaker 2:

They're all impact yeah, rubber over the years talking to close friends and family and talking about we become who we hang around. And you know those early years for you. You said it could be with the wrong crowd to close friends and family and talking about we become who we hang around. And you know those early years for you. You said I got in with the wrong crowd doing all sorts of crazy stuff. Fact you know, and we do it to fit in. But you also used a lovely word avoid. There was a void there and you were filling it with all sorts of stuff and people who weren't serving your higher purpose. So I'm delighted for all of us that you found your way out of that. Yeah, you're being of service to the universe now in the way that, seamus Fox, you're 100% aligned at this moment in time 100%.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 100%, and I actually shared that with. I've got a coach myself. I shared that with my coach. Yesterday we were having a conversation. Going through a few things this year just feels like I'm really aligned with that highest value of what I really love to do and I shared that, which was speaking, coaching, teaching that's the, for me, the real highest value, the thing that I know that I can do all day long. And if I know, I know that that's the thing, I think, especially if we look at it from a business point of view, it's like, well, how can I delegate all the other stuff out so I can get to do the thing that I actually really love? I love that.

Speaker 2:

I love that you're absolutely right, phrase I came up with. It's a couple of things here. I love these conversations. First of all, folks, uh, the coach here has a coach. Did you pick up on that? Success leaves clues. The coach has a coach, right? Um, but I was saying that to somebody recently. Uh, that the only thing you and I should be doing in our business is only the thing that only you and I can do in our business. Right, so you can't delegate out the coaching side of your business, but you could delegate a phone calls or admin or book work or whatever it might be, or follow through, I don't know what it might be, but the only thing you and I should be doing in our business is only the thing that only you and I can do in our business.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that whole percent, yeah but share a bit on that comment, because I did that and growing a fitness business like hired coaches brought a lot of people in, had delegated everything out and it outsourced the thing that I actually really love, which was my highest value, which is coaching.

Speaker 1:

I had other people doing all the coaching and it was the most volatile that I felt emotionally for a period of time and I was escaping. I was like drinking a lot at that time and trying to do all these different things, and I've done a period of time and I was escaping. I was like drinking a lot at that time and trying to do all these different things and I've done a lot of the things that people tell you to do in your business, which was like grow your business and and bring people in. But I delegated the thing that was most important to me and it was the most volatile that I felt emotionally and I remember going what is going on. I've kind of done the thing that I'm supposed to do in order to grow my business, but then I felt lost. So delegate out the stuff that's lower on your priority and stick to how priority. Make sure you do the thing that you really love and that you really feel inspired to do. Don't delegate that out, because you're going to give yourself a bit of a handling.

Speaker 2:

The lives of time. This chat with you shames. This is just fantastic, uh, and again, I love it like this is completely unscripted. We've said we have a chat. It's all about mental well-being and you can sense from Seamus here what the stuff that you have to struggle with over the years and the lessons he's learned, and you're obviously very, at this stage, used to being introspective. You're very good at going into yourself. So what's going on for me here and now? Come here. Two questions, right, because we could be here all day, but we can't be here all day, right. Two questions Two times in your life One time where it was very black Now, maybe we've touched on that already, but maybe we haven't and how you came through that. That's the first one, and then the second one. I'd like to finish on a high, a really proud moment in.

Speaker 1:

Seamus Fox's life. Um, I think I definitely touched on one that was kind of life-defining for me, one that was really, really challenging. Again, we've kind of skirted on the outskirts of what that was like, but internally, what that was like at that time, how I actually felt, I felt as low as a snake's belly. I didn't know what was going on. So there was a lot of really kind of dark moments for a long period of time. After that event. There's been many more challenges since.

Speaker 1:

As you know, you can get your challenges in life, you get your challenges in business and it's how you perceive them. And, like with the people that I work with in CoachCom, some of them are going through really challenges in their business and what I automatically begin to do is right, well, let's look at the other side of that. How's that serving you right now? How's that benefiting you right now? How's that helping you grow right now? Where's that giving you resilience? How's that going to pay dividends in six months, 12 months, 18 months? So I think that for me that was a major event.

Speaker 1:

There's been other events since business wise where I've thought the doors have to close. Covid was a prime example, especially in the fitness space, when businesses were going under, gyms were going under. It was a really, really challenging time. So there's been a few of those, to be totally honest, but, as you said, being introspective, finding the other side and saying, right well, how is that served, how's that benefited, how's that helped me grow, where's that teaching me and how does that get me realigned again to do the thing that's most important? So there's always the other side, for sure there?

Speaker 2:

sure is, there, sure is. Uh, and again, thanks for sharing. There's somebody out there, I there. Here's my belief around this particular season of Coffee with Colin is we'll have great conversations with real people, right, that's all, and we'll put that out there and the universe will dictate whose ears it finds 100%. So our job is, we're doing our job here this morning. Happy days right up to you.

Speaker 1:

I love that.

Speaker 2:

Fabulous stuff, days right up to you, fabulous stuff, you, you. You have rebounded so many times over the years, uh, through again introspection and deep work and and and wanting to be the best version of you. So happy days and continued success of that in that area and, can you know, continue success in terms of leading people. Tell us about a really proud moment.

Speaker 1:

A really proud moment, I would have to say, being at the birth of my daughter 15 years ago. That was definitely one that stands out for sure. There's been many business proud moments speaking on TEDx and achieving certain goals and being invited to speak along with people who I've had a lot of admiration for and learned from and been educated with, and then speaking alongside them. So there's been a lot of business things that I've been proud of, speaking engagements that I've got to do, that I've been really, really proud of. But one of the biggest things that was again life to find him was the birth of my daughter and being present at that for sure wonderful and it's all boiled, boiled back and that those moments pop out as being highlights.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, somebody said the small things end up being the big things in the end. You know, yeah, 100%, yeah, it was.

Speaker 1:

Fox, a real pleasure, fox.

Speaker 2:

A real pleasure, my friend, a real pleasure. I'm so looking forward to it. We've never met in person folks in real, as my youngest daughter would say. We've never met in real yet, but I'm looking forward to that and we'll do that, for sure, early in 2025. I'm going to wrap this up. Stay with you, I'm going to Folks. Wasn't that just fantastic?

Speaker 2:

Thanks indeed for being part of this week's Coffee with Colin, with my wonderful guest, seamus Fox. I hope and trust that you got something from this. I'm sure you did. Please consider what's been shared here today and apply it into your thinking for this next week, and then come back next week and share another coffee together and we'll meet another fascinating guest, god willing. In the meantime, get some great coffee for sure, get some fresh air and get to know yourself a little. Conversely, if you spend too much time alone, go out and meet some people and then, when the time is right and only when the time is right get your head back in the game, get organized for the week ahead, make next week count and I'll see you here this time next week for another Coffee with Colin Sláinte, but last word.

Speaker 1:

Seamus Fox I'm going to use a quote from my mentor, dr john de martini says when the voice and the vision is louder in the inside and all the opinions on the outside, you've begun to master your life. So, listening to the initiation, listen to the voice and the vision on the inside, and let that control your decisions and your habits and the path that you take.